
The 25 and older crowd know Rev. Run (Joseph Simmons) from legendary rap group Run-DMC. Those of another generation are more familiar with he and his wife, Justine Simmons from MTV's award-winning reality TV show, 'Run's House.'
In their excellent new book -- 'Take Back Your Family: A Challenge to America's Parents,' Rev. Run and Justine go deeper than their show offering parents advice and tidbits on successful parenting, including honest dialogue on blended families, the story of how they met, living without money, and living with money and keeping their children grounded.
"Family is the one game where everyone is on an equal playing field," says Rev. Run. "Black or white, rich or poor, ugly or beautiful, everyone really has the same opportunity and ability to raise a happy, loving family."
What prompted the two of you to write the book?
Rev. Run: People were just constantly telling us how much they enjoy the show and how much they love our parenting style. I just thought it was a good way to get the message out about family and being together. I didn't want to take the Dr. Phil approach and say "this is what you must do," I just wanted people my age to realize that maybe they're missing out on something if they're not paying attention to their family. If you look at my show you might think "Oh wait a minute, I have a family at home too. Maybe I should pay more attention to my family and not just on my career." So I just wanted to let people see another side of parenting and being with family.
How did you start placing your family at the center of your life?
Rev. Run: I think it's just a gift since it's something I love to do. It's a God giving gift to just feel so concerned about my family. I think it's a responsibility chip that God put inside of me. I feel like it's been downloaded into my life and I just feel that I need to do right by my family, have fun with my family so I don't want to take all the credit but it just flows naturally.
What was the process of writing the book? How long did it take, was it fun, difficult, challenging?
Rev. Run: I did it all in the time of filming Run's House. It took two months. I would sit down and preach to a tape recorder about how I felt about life. We would take that, Chris Morrow and myself, and take notes out of that and write the book. I would just stand there with a tape recorder and just talk about family life and situations. Same thing goes for my wife. Maybe a question or two would be asked by Chris, who helped us write the book, and we would just talk and have hours and hours of tape to go back and refer to.
What is the deepest desire you have for your family?
Rev. Run: To be happy.
What ages do you like most in raising your children?
Rev. Run: I don't really have a particular age. I enjoy Vanessa at 25 and I enjoy Miley at 11-months. Watching Vanessa and Angela do well with Pastry, watching Miley come into the house, watching Diggy skateboard; it all feels good to me. I enjoy all the ages of my children.
What do you think is the biggest challenge today, in marriage and in raising a family.
Rev. Run: The biggest challenge would be communication. You just have to be able to compromise with your wife as far as I'm concerned. If she has a deep desire to do something you may want to give in to that. My motto is 'Happy wife, happy life.' I think the best thing I can do for my family is give them things to do. I'll take Diggy to the skate park so he can get on skateboards. I'll introduce Vanessa and Angela to people in the fashion world, me and Russell, that we have connections to so they can open their company and Diggy's trying to open up his own company even though he's only 13 years old. We give him the responsibility to create logos and create what he thinks it is; we just don't give them everything they want. We give them a push and the responsibility to see if they really want what they say they want.
What role does God and Church play in your family?
Rev. Run: God is the most important in our life. We are very much into prayer and we believe that God has to be put first in everything. The Bible says "If you submit your plans to God, he'll guide your path." We're deep into scriptures, we're deep into church, we're God fearing people. Being a reverend, my show I believe is really my ministry. People ask, "Well Rev Run you're a reverend but where's your church?" My church is the MTV pulpit. I'm able to touch people that other people aren't able to touch.
Do you guys pray before meals, do you pray together? How does that work?
Rev. Run: We do lots of prayers together. We give you as much as we can without making you feel guilty. I think if I put too much church at people who don't go to church, they're going to be turned off by God. So I let them see the character of my family rather me throwing my hands in the air praising God. I don't think that's essential. What's essential is seeing the results of what Christ does for me rather than me throwing my hands up in church. For me you look at my life and you see that it's on point and you know that I'm down with God. You'll hear Justine pick of the phone and say "Praise the Lord," you see me being counseled by the Bishop before; you've seen enough. I'd rather preach to you through actions than shove down your throat that you're going to hell if you don't do certain things. That wouldn't be very effective.
Part II with Justine Simmons:
What advice would you have for blended families?
Justine: These kids didn't ask to be in this situation, that's number one, and they really don't want their parents to break up. But if you take on this new child, and you're a man or woman, please be open. Don't have an attitude towards them. Yes, they may be a little bitter but give them time. Just show them love and don't go on their level because it's hard for them at the time. Be open and the more love you show them the better the situation will be. Try not to go in and think that this person is their father or this person is their mother and you don't have to deal with the child. People think that Vanessa, Jo Jo and Angela are mine, and some people still think that because of the love. Truthfully I met Vanessa, Angela and Jo Jo before Diggy and Russy. So Diggy and Russy know they can't play the game, "That's really my mother," that doesn't play in my house because I'll tell them in a minute, I knew them before you. Vanessa, Angela and Jo Jo know that too.
Would you say that Rev. Run is the head of the household?
Justine: He's definitely head of the household. What parents have to realize is when it's all over, your kids are going to leave you. Mothers really get caught up in it and my husband had to teach me this, you tend to put these little people ahead of your marriage. First you need to realize that they leave, they go on with their life. It's going to be you and him after that. I met a lady who told me, out of the blue so I knew it was God, she told me that her and her husband were getting a divorce. They were not upset at each other but they grew apart. She said they grew apart because she was so wrapped up in her daughter and before you knew it she didn't know him and he didn't know her. Kids will try to play you. Russy always accuses me of saying 'Ask daddy,' and he says "Aren't you a leader too?" as if I'm going to give in. At the end of the day my husband and I both come to an agreement after they ask him. They don't know that, we just make them think it's up to him.
What's your deepest desire for your family?
Justine: To get them to know that family matters and that family plays a big part. To see how great their dad is to see how great I try to be and that they choose people in the future that try to keep family together. We try very hard as a family. Vanessa and Angela, they're older now, they don't have to go on vacations with us but they do. And they really don't have to yet they make sure that we spend time together. They call their brothers and they call and check on Miley so it's great.
Both you and Rev. Run come from big families. How do you and your husband deal with favoritism?
Justine: It happens but you have to be aware of that. What me and Rev Run try to do is treat whoever's being smarter and making great choices a little differently. If I get along with you better but you're not being smart, I'm not going to make it seem like you're the bomb over the rest of the children because that's just going to mess everybody up. We want all our children to feel like they can become something. It's great how Joey's trying to get everyone to pursue what they want to do.
What is the most challenging thing to keeping a happy marriage?
Justine: Truthfully I would have to say compromise and be fair. A lot of things I want to do I may think is right and I find out later it's not. There are probably things my husband does for me that he doesn't want to but he compromises.
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By: Avril on 9/03/2008 6:23PM
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Good luck to you with that.
(((Don't need luck. I have a husband. As I said, both myself and my husband decided that my place at this time is to be at home caring for our child...that is my responsibility, not my mother's responsibility, nor my mother in law's responsibility. They have their own lives, and they raised their own children. I am not a single parent, nor some bitch a nigga knocked up and left. I am a wife and mother. At this time, my place is in the home, caring for our baby and home.)))
If that brother isnt 100% you are going to be in a world of hurt, you and your baby. What would you do when jump offs start calling or he decides to leave. Not saying anything like that will happen but it can, have you made any preparations for that????
(((Quite prepared. I have a formal education, and took time from a career in the insurance industry to care for our child. In addition, I have money, i.e. savings, 401K, stock I've purchased in my co. So I'm far from poor. As for jumpoffs, I've seen no evidence of that.)))
He has you trained good.
(((No, God has me trained good. God FIRST, then HUSBAND and WIFE, who in turn do what is BEST for the CHILDREN they produce. What is BEST is for me to be home with my baby at this time.)))
You make it sound like you become handicapped after having a baby and cant do anything else but stay home.
(((I am not a mule or a workhorse...I am a black woman. My place is at home, with my child...not putting the responsibility of raising my child off on my mother or my mother in law...or putting my baby in the hands of a stranger.)))
I doubt if your husband will tell you but you have plenty of options.
(((That is precisely why my husband loves and admires me...because of all the options I've had and still have...but I chose to put those options aside to care for our baby.)))
My life and money didnt stop just because I needed to be with my baby.
(((And neither did mine.)))
My husband wouldnt dare tell me...
(((My husband is the head of our household, my input is always welcome and appreciated, if we come to the same agreement, fine, but it is HE who makes the final decisions in our home...and I allow him to, because his decisions are always sound. One of the advantages of marrying a responsible black man.)))
GOD BLESSED THE CHILD THATS GOT HER OWN.
(((Thanks to the teachings of my father, I stepped upon the path of "having my own" at the age of 17, when he taught me how to make my money grow. It is because of him that, at the age of 25, I owned my first home, that I earned a degree and obtained a job in a lucrative field, that I learned how to play and win in the stock market. Every dollar in my 401k, cd, my stock options, are my "own". And I have a wonderful brotha I call husband, who isn't afraid to do a little extra work to care for his family. So as you can see, God HAS blessed me with my own.)))
No that isnt it, he needs a wife who will get off her duff and pull in some paper too if the situation calls for it.
(((If he's looking for an extra paycheck, you're absolutely right. My father taught me this: if a man marries a woman with the idea that she is going to supplement HIS paycheck with HERS, he is not the man to consider marrying; that if a man cannot provide for his family WITHOUT his wife's assistance, then he should not have a family. Good thing I listened to him. As I said, when our child is ready for school, I'll be ready to go back to work.)))
Two working parent families aren't bad;
(((Who said they were bad? However, they are not good, either.))) I said a woman should be at home temporarily with her babies until they're ready for school...that isn't permanent.)))
its always been way more common in black families than our white counterparts.
(((And perhaps that is why some of our black children, esp. boys, are running wild, because the parents are more concerned with making a few extra dollars to buy some crap that depreciates in value, rather than the well being of their children?)))
Please stop defending people who dont know
(((I can defend whom I please...and that includes Rev. Run. Joseph Simmons was not born with a spoon in his mouth, he comes from a working class family in Hollis, Queens. Stop hating because he was able to obtain the success and money to live well...and stop hating on me because I married a traditional black man...a man who believes in protecting and caring for his family...or would you rather have heard a sob story about me being a multiple baby mama to multiple baby daddies and on welfare and WIC??? Some black people are such haters, I tell you!!)))
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By: Missy on 9/10/2008 3:16PM
by Shawn Amos in GetBack - The revolution is long over, and MTV is just another in a long line of corporate stooges trotting out corporate stooge bands trying to pass themselves off as something anti-establishment. Its filled with a bunch of reality nothingness celebrating a life of consumerism. The "M" used to stand for "music." Now it stands for "meaningless." EmpTV. Empty. It's all one self-conscious, soulless bore.
I could not have said it better myself.
M
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By: RONA THOMPSON on 9/26/2008 6:55PM
I LOVED YOUR SHOW AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE YOU IN PERSON WITH YOUR FAMILY AND BROTHER AND KIMORA WHEN YOUR DAUGHTER ANGELA AND YOUR SONS WAS IN THE FASHION SHOW AT FASHION INDUSTRIES HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE DEFINETLY ROLE MODELS.
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By: Monique on 10/03/2008 4:42PM
I love this article...i read alot of them and then i read the comments and chose not to comment because of the spirit in which the viewers read them... but there is no negativity you can add to this one... i really think that Justine could offer a beautiful ministry to young single or just single and married women period to prepare them or show them how to deal with their husbands and significant others... because the things that she shared in this article are the things that i have heard the old school veterans of marriage share and thats basically knowing your spouse and knowing that you both play equally important parts in a marriage you just have to know your part...and your partner...
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By: GG on 10/03/2008 8:32PM
I am not a big fan of the show but the times that I have watched it, it was Ok...I guess most married people would make it if the wife sit back and whined and all the time like Justine...If only one person in the house hold had all the say so then I guess some would think their house hold is perfect...I don't call good parenting when the younger sung broke his handheld playstation and other things but Rev. Run went out and purchased him another one...There is no such thing as PERFECT ANYTHING...BUT THIS IS ALL MY 2 SENSE..I don't need anyone telling me how to have a RELATIONSHIP my family...Justine has to get permission to do anything and she NEVER SHUT THE HELL UP...Yeah like someone else said what about EDUCATION?
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By: Sonya on 10/04/2008 4:00AM
I really love this show ad how they are a happy family with his older children getting along well with Run's new wife, they're all one happy family. Myself and my small children all watch the tv show together. I love it, i love it, love and much more blessings to the happy family!!!
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By: lou on 11/24/2008 7:40PM
i have a personal guestion for Justine. i,m a 53yrs g,mother i need some help please e-mail me
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By: Don on 12/13/2008 10:04PM
They show all their wealth in the MTV Show, the Lambo, Rolls, the Model of the Gulfstream jet that they don't own, they rent time-share (Hours) through Net-Jets.
Are they Tax Exempt? Or is the Mansion set up as a Church? Legally all you need to do is have service once a week and the home is tax free. Sup with that?
Nothing wrong with being a Rev. and running a Church.
If your a real Rev. Use your money to help the poor, feed people, and live moderately. Not like the King and Queen of Sheba.
All the ministers I know live like most people.
The poor young black kids now-a-days want to obtain this kind of wealth from watching these type of shows, some get arrested for selling drugs because they want to live like these people.
Are they really role models?
Rap Videos are throwing wads of money in the air, spending thousands on stupid car tire rims and drilling perfectly good teeth to install stupid grills and gold teeth.
Not to mention degrading women and calling them Ho*'s.
Denzel Washington and Bill Cosby are role models to me and my families eye's.
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By: Claudy on 4/01/2009 1:28AM
hi i love a lot the simmons familly i'm from Cameroon.i would like to discuss directly which Rev Run Simmons please help me it"s an idol for me.thanks
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By: algil655 on 12/29/2008 7:21PM
hi mr Rev Run and mrs Simmons
Hi iam becky kalus and i was wondering if i could come and meet you all because iam your number 1 fan and i realy like diggy as a friend
.I live in glouster
.I am 12 years old and will be 13 in feb
.And i am your number 1 fan
thanks you loads and loads my email addrsse is algil655@aol.com thanks you for listing xxxbecky xxx
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